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romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is you lose the lead. and i can't for the life of me believe that that's what they did, but that's the only explanation. they told the president, don't be confrontational. they told the president, be above it all, act presidential. but the one thing that gets me when i was running for re-election as mayor and when i was running for re-election as governor and even d.a., i had a passion for what we'd accomplished. i had a passion to explain where we didn't ak plir something, why we didn't, what the road blocks were, and he could have done that without being aggres
romney did -- governor romney was terrific last night. he did all the things he has to do to get back in this race, and i am also mystified at the president's strategy. you know, chris, i'm a good sports fan. in fact, i even do sports tv and i write -- >> i know you do. >> and there's a great sports analogy. when you play the perfect defense when you have a lead, when you try to sit on the ball in basketball when you have got a lead, when you play conservative, what often happens is...
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mitchell reports," a bout last night, president obama and governor romney, what both are saying about their debate performance. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last night i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see two very din visions for the country. and i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle down government and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> overnight polls and "the denver post" give round one to romney. as a republican challenger went after the president's record. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office, facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, and economic crisis at the kitchen table, and spent his energy and passion for two
mitchell reports," a bout last night, president obama and governor romney, what both are saying about their debate performance. >> when i got on to the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but it couldn't have been mitt romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts that favor the wealthy, the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> last...
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for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his eighth trip to nevada this year before 00 kwering down for two full days for debate prep at a lakeside resort in suburban las vegas. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this election and i are going to have a debate. i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. >> you are. >> i don't know about that. >> both campaigns from the candidates on down have been frantically spinning to lower expectations for wednesday night. >> governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama is a very experienced speaker,
for your him it had to begin wednesday night in denver. romney had just a rough three weeks. he's had a rough three months. you could argue that romney hasn't, quote, won a month in this campaign since may or june. a trailing campaign has just a handful of opportunities to fundamentally change the trajectory of a race. it's losing. barring an october surprise, the three debates that kick off wednesday night are romney's last chance. the president rallied supporters sunday night kicking off his...
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romney should be spooked, but the real fright night is tomorrow, when he'll have to stand up there and answer to the 47% and to the president. >>> joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and elisia menendez. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i hope you like the sound effects, governor, i did it for you. >> if you get any thinner, you'll look like a skeleton on halloween night. >> oh e well, we'll talk about that another time. let me say, the 47% is bad enough. it's haunting romney and his campaign. but we have just got from "the huffington post" a statement that mr. ryan made, a sound bite, about americans that sounds very similar. let me play this to you for the first time and get your reaction. this was a year ago, paul ryan last november, talking about his estimate of how many people are dependent on government. listen to this. >> before too long we could become a society we were never, ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. 70% of americans want the amer
romney should be spooked, but the real fright night is tomorrow, when he'll have to stand up there and answer to the 47% and to the president. >>> joining me now is former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, now an nbc news political analyst and elisia menendez. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> i hope you like the sound effects, governor, i did it for you. >> if you get any thinner, you'll look like a skeleton on halloween night. >> oh e well, we'll talk...
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stuart: the one the debate last night? >> absolutely romney. there is a small town of about 300 people around here where i watched it in a local tavern. the folks in the tavern had the same worries that we do in the city. and down, everyone in that tavern felt like you and i did. stuart: you are a cattle farmer, don't you like subsidies from the federal government? isn't president barack obama tried to bribe you with some subsidies? >> i think things have been going so well now that that is not really the case anymore. the big businessmen, which farmers are, they do not rely on that clutch anymore. you cannot put a farmer out of business with the weather, but you may if you back over his mailbox. that is not the case anymore. it is good old-fashioned work and there are no shortcuts. stuart: i was joking, scott. i hope you know that. i am a tree farmer myself. i am not looking four subsidies from president obama or anyone else. >> it is a good honest days work and you sleep better. the oxygen that you get out here is much better than in the city
stuart: the one the debate last night? >> absolutely romney. there is a small town of about 300 people around here where i watched it in a local tavern. the folks in the tavern had the same worries that we do in the city. and down, everyone in that tavern felt like you and i did. stuart: you are a cattle farmer, don't you like subsidies from the federal government? isn't president barack obama tried to bribe you with some subsidies? >> i think things have been going so well now that...
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hi, tamron. >> a victory for mitt romney, but did he win because he's so vague last night. ezra kline joins us. what might be the million dollar question. why didn't president obama bring up romney's 47% remarks? bain capital or even more details on romney's taxes. well, patrick gaspar from the dnc will join me live. we'll find out what he knows. our "news nation" political panel today are all with me live, and we have some breaking news regarding the fbi now in libya. "news nation" is up next. [ male announcer ] attention medicare beneficiaries. open enrollment is here. the time to choose your medicare coverage begins october 15th and ends december 7th. so call to enroll in a plan that could give you the benefits and stability you're looking for, an aarp medicarecomplete plan insured through unitedhealthcare. what makes it complete? it can combines medicare parts a and b, which is your hospital and doctor coverage with part d prescription drug coverage, and more, all in one simple plan starting at a zero dollar monthly premium -- no more than what you already pay for medic
hi, tamron. >> a victory for mitt romney, but did he win because he's so vague last night. ezra kline joins us. what might be the million dollar question. why didn't president obama bring up romney's 47% remarks? bain capital or even more details on romney's taxes. well, patrick gaspar from the dnc will join me live. we'll find out what he knows. our "news nation" political panel today are all with me live, and we have some breaking news regarding the fbi now in libya....
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it only adds to mitt romney's 47% problem in tomorrow night's debate. >>> plus, republicans used to have no problem with far right agenda people like todd akin. now they're trying to hide who they really are. stay with us. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, you'd be targeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering w
it only adds to mitt romney's 47% problem in tomorrow night's debate. >>> plus, republicans used to have no problem with far right agenda people like todd akin. now they're trying to hide who they really are. stay with us. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay...
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governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who published a behind the scenes book about president obama has another theory. >> something happened. maybe in foreign affairs, they got some intelligence report or something -- who knows? but i think as the onion gets peeled on this, we'll find that something happened in his presidential or personal life that distracted him. >> bret: just a look back, you may remember president obama cracked one liners at the white house correspondence dinner right after giving the green light for the osama bin laden raid. >>> the air traffic controllers union and
governor romney having a good night. but some of the possible reasons that the president was off his game are raising some eyebrows. here is former vice president al gore. >> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when go to 5,000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, i don't know. maybe -- >> bret: so again, the former vice president said it was the amount do you do. bob woodward, who...
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tomorrow night's debate. there is a tall hall at the clinton county courthouse where paul ryan will appear in burlington. ann romney will appear in colorado in a little while. vice-president biden will take the stage at an event surely in charlotte. it's the first of his two plans stops in north carolina today. michelle obama has a speaking appearance in cincinnati. early voting started in ohio this morning. more shots fired in maryland. protesters urging people to vote against question 7 on the november ballot. some of the protesters may have had an ulterior motive. brianne carter has the story from upper marlborough. >> with their signs and shirts, dozen people showed up outside the prince george's county administration building to protest maryland ballot question 7. it would greenlight the plan for a casino in prince george county. >> they want the money to be used for schools, they would never applied to the bills. >> there's an ad on craigslist that raises questions about whether participants came to opp
tomorrow night's debate. there is a tall hall at the clinton county courthouse where paul ryan will appear in burlington. ann romney will appear in colorado in a little while. vice-president biden will take the stage at an event surely in charlotte. it's the first of his two plans stops in north carolina today. michelle obama has a speaking appearance in cincinnati. early voting started in ohio this morning. more shots fired in maryland. protesters urging people to vote against question 7 on...
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mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates would have to go up on the wealthy, too, to make this close to working. >> that wasn't my analysis. the point raised by you and others is that there are now plans that conservatives have put together which meet the specifications of mr. romney and don't raise taxes on the middle class. there are plans that the democrats have put together that do raise tax on the middle class. that says this can be done and the issue is what will be done. on that i would say i don't think the president is in a strong position of pointing fingers. he has been saying he wants t
mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates...
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mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president who don't plan to do so again. i'm like many americans who were democrat at one point who moved away from the democratic party. the democratic party ideas. part of it is policy. part of it is ideology and part of it is results. last night was a debate about result. what was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in th
mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president...
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and it's interesting night, and governor romney clearly had a good night by all accounts. even the obama folks and we'll see where it goes from here. >> and you'll be able to tell by who breaks a sweat behind you. >> that is right. and that is it for us here live in denver. and first, it's just the first. there are many more still to come. >> vice presidential debate coming up thursday, thanks for watching. >> welcome to hannity. we're live in we'll be joined by rob portman helping to prepare governor romney for the debate will join us tonight. senator marco rubio will be here. one of the things initial thoughts is that you saw the president in a way you've never seen him before. never before hammered this way on a sustained basis. this went on throughout the night. mitt romney energized and was staring at him the whole time, meaning the president. the president would look down, and looking to bail him out in this debate. we've never seen this before in president obama. there is a lot of ground to cover tonight of we'll check in with our focus group. we're live with a lot
and it's interesting night, and governor romney clearly had a good night by all accounts. even the obama folks and we'll see where it goes from here. >> and you'll be able to tell by who breaks a sweat behind you. >> that is right. and that is it for us here live in denver. and first, it's just the first. there are many more still to come. >> vice presidential debate coming up thursday, thanks for watching. >> welcome to hannity. we're live in we'll be joined by rob...
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the republicans could have stayed there all night. romney supporters. they wanted to talk about this and gloat all night. >> belva: some critics said the president spent so much time stating what romney believes but never told as much as he should have about what he believes. >> sure, almost like too much of the nice guy. he was saying, governor romney and i agree on this. and he -- you wanted to paint differences. if you are running for the highest office in the land, you want to say how you are different from your opponent and the president didn't do a good job of differentiating himself. romney did. in the theatrics of the debate, he was very pointed. he was concise. and something he hasn't been throughout the campaign. >> belva: he'll be here on what day? the president. >> monday, grabbing cash. he'll be having a semipublic event. >> belva: and the v.p. debate is? >> thursday. that's must-see tv. that's going to be chaotic television. set the dvr now. >> belva: okay. that's what's happening at the top of the ticket. we'll move to those areas down wh
the republicans could have stayed there all night. romney supporters. they wanted to talk about this and gloat all night. >> belva: some critics said the president spent so much time stating what romney believes but never told as much as he should have about what he believes. >> sure, almost like too much of the nice guy. he was saying, governor romney and i agree on this. and he -- you wanted to paint differences. if you are running for the highest office in the land, you want to...
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they had just about given up on romney before last night. they needed -- they really needed romney to do well last night. otherwise, they would have just folded their tent. unfortunately, they got the boost last night that they needed. because romney did breathe new life into the campaign. now for the next week, right it's going to be oh, my god, oh, my god, we gotta bounce now. we didn't get a bounce out of paul ryan or tampa but now yeah romney proved he's up to the task. he showed that he's capable of holding his own against president obama and this is going to re-energize the republicans. just when we had them down for the count we let them back up. off the canvas. should never have done it. should never have let it happened. all right. more calls coming up and we'll talk to reporter from the hill, niles standage in the next segment here of the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >>and now to my point. that is a whole bunch of bunk! the powerful my steal an election but they cannot steal democracy. (vo) cenk
they had just about given up on romney before last night. they needed -- they really needed romney to do well last night. otherwise, they would have just folded their tent. unfortunately, they got the boost last night that they needed. because romney did breathe new life into the campaign. now for the next week, right it's going to be oh, my god, oh, my god, we gotta bounce now. we didn't get a bounce out of paul ryan or tampa but now yeah romney proved he's up to the task. he showed that he's...
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i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come back from that, governor. what i will say is, you know, in terms of this debate, i found one part of it, which was really refreshing, it was pretty wonky. it was pretty substantive. >> the b.s. wonk. >> what's that? >> b.s. wonk. >> mitt romney was floating policies out there -- >> united states has the best health outcomes in the world? >> it was not -- that's it, it was not a lot of one-liners and zingers. >> a couple of good one-liners. people forgot. i've been in business for 25 years, i have no idea what you're talking about, that's pretty good. >> i need to consult with my accountant is
i think it was a good night for romney, bad night for obama. but the real thing is, it is this really start of a countertrend or an anomalous event. >> that's the big thing. there's no question that obama can easily get through this and get over this. >> let me make two points. the first is -- >> you are the host. >> they say, although sometimes -- >> new york the jim lehrer of today's discussion. >> i'm going to shrink down in my chair. i'm going to come...
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how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big. >> steve: you're making it sound quite historic. in fact, "wall street journal" says this is the best debate effort by a republican nominee since reagan back in 1980, which would have been 32 years from now. do you think this is going to move the polls, move the meter? >> that's the big question. if you're asking me to guess, and that's all i'm doing this morning, i would say it will move the needle. i have no idea how much. is it a point or two or is it a bunch much points? we're all going to find out in the next wave of polls. i think everybody i
how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big....
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guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing the work for him and mitt romney has been doing the work for his campaign. we'll see what happens going forward. pout a question, the obama supporters were on their heels last night. were disappointed. wondering, where was this guy who they've been seeing in the tv commercials going so hard at mitt romney? he was clearly trying to be too presidential and not going after romney. >> we can't escape the fact. four of the last five incumbent presidents had lost the first debate. it's unbelievable. you have to say there is something to this. >> they're not used to being challenged
guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing...
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it did go well for romney last night. most people went in and out of food stamps and in and out of welfare in year-and-a-half. most people don't want to be on the government dole. most people want to work. most people are ambitious is. i don't buy, i'm surprised obama didn't bring up the 47% number last night. i'm surprised he didn't reframe it by saying something like yes, we've had a number of people on entitlements. we've had a number of people on food stamps. we had to do it to get people out of the bush recession. hopefully over time once we see numbers moving in the right direction, moody's is projecting 10 million more jobs over next 10 years, i'm sorry over next four years. boston consulting saying will get two million manufacturing jobs over the next couple of years. so these are we're on the right track. these are the metrics that need to be brought up and should have been brought up last night in the debate. >> alan, do you know anybody on food stamps or government assistance, alan? >> i do. yeah. >> okay. and
it did go well for romney last night. most people went in and out of food stamps and in and out of welfare in year-and-a-half. most people don't want to be on the government dole. most people want to work. most people are ambitious is. i don't buy, i'm surprised obama didn't bring up the 47% number last night. i'm surprised he didn't reframe it by saying something like yes, we've had a number of people on entitlements. we've had a number of people on food stamps. we had to do it to get people...
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this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a moment like that tomorrow night. not going to be easy for jim lehrer. even if romney won't answer for them, it needs to be spelled out loud and clear to the american people who have been lied to. mitt romney has not been straight with americans on where he stands and where he wants to take the country and there's no better platform than for the president to take him to the house. how can you expect him to be straight with you as president when he can't even run his own campaign? get your cell phones out. tonight's question, will mitt romney continue his campaign of lies at tomorrow's debate? text a for
this is why mitt romney can't be let off the hook in the debate tomorrow night. but it's hard to press him on these issues when he doesn't even answer the questions. here it is. >> what is the biggest misconception about you in the public debate right now? >> we'll have to create more jobs, have less debt and shrink the size of government. >> misconceptions about you? >> you get to ask the questions you want and i get to give the answers i want. >> i hope there's a...
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here is one of the variations you would expect romney to use tomorrow night. >> they want to know, will i get jobs for the american people and get rising incomes? i'm a president for 100 percent of the american people. that is what the people care about. not 47 percent versus anyone, but president for 100 100 percef the people and i have demonstrated that throughout my life. >>carl: he will argue that president obama's record demonstrates an inability to get the committee going. trace? >>trace: thank you, carl. the presidential campaigns have been trying to lower expectations. it is a political strategy based on the idea that if voters are not expecting that were, they are more likely to be impressed. what do you think? joining us is g.o.p. consultant and young democrats of america executive director. emily, you look at the polls and it appears that governor romney is way down when it comes to women especially single women. you not about to be swayed toward the romney catch, but if you were, what do you want to hear the governor talk about? >>guest: well, the way governor romney will po
here is one of the variations you would expect romney to use tomorrow night. >> they want to know, will i get jobs for the american people and get rising incomes? i'm a president for 100 percent of the american people. that is what the people care about. not 47 percent versus anyone, but president for 100 100 percef the people and i have demonstrated that throughout my life. >>carl: he will argue that president obama's record demonstrates an inability to get the committee going....
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this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that momentum in the final days? >> well, first of all, i'm not the least bit surprised mitt romney did as well as he did. he did well in the 20 debates rick santorum went up against him. i would also argue one of the big advantages romney had going into the debate was he did have to debate rick santorum, he did have to debate newt gingrich. it is like having a preseason. and the president didn't have that. i think the other key thing that came out of this is the presidential race for all practical purposes actually started last night. a lot of people just didn't know mitt romney
this was the type of performance that romney brought last night. bill crystal in "the weekly standard" said, romney comes out of the debate with momentum. can his campaign turn a good debate into a true inflection point in the presidential race? so in your estimation, your guy went up against mitt romney in the primary and debates, how does this mitt romney last night compare to the one that your guy debated against and then how does romney seize on this moment to keep up that...
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another top story, when donors were at romney's hotel last night, rob portman came by. as one aide told us, portman played a better president obama than the president himself. >> peter alexander traveling with the romney campaign. back over to chuck todd. same question to you. having seen that bizarre development of people in the crowd at an obama rally wondering what was going on last night. >> yeah, that was unbelievable. it's safe to say the swagger and over confidence is gone from this campaign. and i would call it anxiety from them today. this is the way the obama campaign tried to act today. number one, they put out the first ad using debate footage, calling mitt romney dishonest. david plouffe, senien strategis used the word dishonest for not being honest nearly a dozen times this afternoon, so they're trying to put the focus on mitt romney and saying hey, he gave a great performance, but didn't exactly, wasn't exactly honest. it was rally therapy out here though. he did have 30,000 people show up in madison. >> wrapping it up for us tonight. thanks. we have two
another top story, when donors were at romney's hotel last night, rob portman came by. as one aide told us, portman played a better president obama than the president himself. >> peter alexander traveling with the romney campaign. back over to chuck todd. same question to you. having seen that bizarre development of people in the crowd at an obama rally wondering what was going on last night. >> yeah, that was unbelievable. it's safe to say the swagger and over confidence is gone...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...